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Post by cbsouthern on Dec 29, 2009 16:37:34 GMT -5
I am trying to find out information on a 1976 Saginaw Michigan murder. The man convicted name is Ralph John Gilbert, the date of the crime is 10/10/1976. He was convicted of 3 counts of first degree murder and I am con locate any information on the internet about this case. Greatful for any help. Thank you Carrie
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Post by brandy777 on Jun 11, 2010 21:10:39 GMT -5
I've been looking and NOTHING so far. I'll look more tomorrow.
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Post by jerton313 on Jul 14, 2010 17:17:49 GMT -5
What did you want to know about this person? I had him as student and also the boy that was with him when he committed the murders was a student in the same class, ironically a psychology class... Let me know if I can shed any light on what happened that day. good luck in your quest for answers, JET
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Post by geeyathink on Jul 18, 2010 0:42:05 GMT -5
I was also in JET's class and was there the day after the murders when Ralph came to his classroom and was talking about some murders the day before. Little did we know that he did that himself. I went to school with this person since kindergarten and who would've ever thought that this could happen?? We went to a Catholic school until 8th grade and life was so protected then !! Not that the public school makes a difference, Most of us didn't turn out to murder a woman and her two small children !!
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Post by cbsouthern on Aug 29, 2011 17:28:18 GMT -5
Jet, Thank you You were a teacher at carrollton? I went there as well. Ralph and I were friends growing up and to this day we write on a weekly basis have for the past 35 years. I am a therapist and have for years been trying to figure this all out......Any light you could shed would be very helpful. Carrie Yarger-Breault, cbsouthern@yahoo.com
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Post by cbsouthern on Sept 18, 2011 7:41:36 GMT -5
JT Ralph asked me to deliver a message to you, he said to tell you, " I am sorry for everything I put you through, Please accept my appology".
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Post by mistyflower08 on Jul 22, 2013 10:10:14 GMT -5
The lady that Ralph Gilbert murdered worked in my dad's office. I remember this. I have the newspapers articles. If you want xerox copies I can send them to you.
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Post by mistyflower08 on Jul 24, 2013 14:38:30 GMT -5
Jeanne Gehrcke age 26 and her 2 sons , Mark Gehrcke age 5 and Keith Gehrcke age 3
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Post by jehoshaphat73 on Jan 1, 2015 12:55:30 GMT -5
I too grew up with Ralph. I remember walking to his home as a young boy, attending 1st grade thru 12th grade together. I lost track of him in high school because we hung out with a different crowd. I recently visited with Ralph in prison this past week. He prefers to go by the name of Levi now. It is very sad because so many lives were destroyed that day. He has been imprisoned for 38 years now and will probably never be released while living. I was in shock upon hearing what he had done, did not think he was capable. He does take full responsibility for his actions. I was sitting in church one Sunday and a thought came to me to visit with him. I am a believer of God's word and wanted to share a message with Levi. Levi told me he could never forgive himself for what he had done. The Bible says in Matthew Verses 6:14,15 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Yes prison has hardened his heart and he does deserve to be where he is at. If he did that to my family I would want the death sentence upon him. Levi said death would have been easier on him. I have no answers, just seeking God to make things right. I only hope to live by God's word and forgive those whom have done wrong to me.
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Post by jehoshaphat73 on Jan 1, 2015 12:57:19 GMT -5
I too grew up with Ralph. I remember walking to his home as a young boy, attending 1st grade thru 12th grade together. I lost track of him in high school because we hung out with a different crowd. I recently visited with Ralph in prison this past week. He prefers to go by the name of Levi now. It is very sad because so many lives were destroyed that day. He has been imprisoned for 38 years now and will probably never be released while living. I was in shock upon hearing what he had done, did not think he was capable. He does take full responsibility for his actions. I was sitting in church one Sunday and a thought came to me to visit with him. I am a believer of God's word and wanted to share a message with Levi. Levi told me he could never forgive himself for what he had done. The Bible says in Matthew Verses 6:14,15 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Yes prison has hardened his heart and he does deserve to be where he is at. If he did that to my family I would want the death sentence upon him. Levi said death would have been easier on him. I have no answers, just seeking God to make things right. I only hope to live by God's word and forgive those whom have done wrong to me.
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Post by oxdrover on Dec 3, 2015 0:29:03 GMT -5
Bonnie, I found your blog and website via information about Charles "Jackie" Walls III. I knew jackie, and of course his family (who are all great folks) and I never liked Jackie, but I sure didn't know why until he was charged. I have a son who is ALSO in prison (where he belongs) My Son William Patrick Alexander is incarcerated in texas for the cold blooded killing of Jessica Witt, a 17 year old girl in January of 1992. He comes up for parole every few years and I hire an attorney and PROTEST HIS PAROLE...so far I have managed to keep him incarcerated. The devastation done by criminals to their OWN FAMILIES is causing untold anguish to families like mine, not only the "victims" but to the families of the criminals. For years I hid my shame, as I live in a different state and my son is incarcerated in Texas and I would tell people who asked about him that he "lives in Texas and works for the State of Texas" but after my son sent one of his ex cell mates to rent a house from me and to infiltrate our family like a Trojan horse for the purpose of killing me so he could inherit from a family trust, and if I lived longer than my mother does, he would get NOTHING. Fortunately I was able to find out that this renter was a convicted sex offender and that he was involved with my son (long story how) I ended up living in hiding for almost 6 months before this 3x convicted peodophile was arrested for trying to kill another son of mine. At that point I "came out of the closet" and told my friends and relatives the TRUTH. The shame was not mine, it was HIS. Of course as a diagnosed psychopath (now called anti social personality disorder) he has no shame. He is actually proud that he killed that b*tch for ratting him out for stealing her grandfather's credit card and running up thousands of dollars in fraud. I searched the web to find a support site for families of criminal offenders that didn't ENCOURAGE the families to take these people back into their family home...the recidivism rate of ALL felony convicted criminals over a 20 year period is 80% that is EIGHTY percent! I have friends and neighbors who have repeat criminals in their families and they "just can't give up on Junior" and they keep bailing him out or being "supportive" of him. I PERSONALLY know the heart ache that jackie Walls caused his family. He raped one of his sisters kids and that young man killed himself. My youngest son works for Boy Scouts of America in a paid position and there are always those creeps like Jackie that try to get by with stuff. Dr. Anna Salter, who is probably the TOP expert on child molesters has written wonderful information on pedophiles and how to distinguish them. My web site is www.familyarrested.com and it is for the support of families and we don't encourage people to take hardened criminals back into their homes, but to go NO CONTACT. 25% of ALL felony inmates are diagnosable as psychopaths and have NO conscience and WILL continue to offend as long as they are alive and able to walk. And the average score of ALL inmates on the Psychopath check list-revised developed by dr. Robert Hare, one of the first researchers into psychopathy and is the gold standard for the legal definition of a psychopath. There is also research using fMRIs that psychopaths AND pedophiles actually have a different structure to their brains than typical people. There is a strong genetic tendency to this as well, though environment does play a role in it. Next summer I will be collecting letters for the Texas Parole board to PROTEST the release of my son. I hope that you and your bloggers will be willing to send letters of protest There is NO DANGER HE WILL FIND OUT WHO SENT THEM as the parole process is like a grandjury and is totally secret. I need desperately to keep him in prison not only for my own protection but the protection of my other sons and my elderly mother who still supports her "baby boy" and he preys on her love for him for money and to hire an attorney for him to try to get him out on parole. Well, anyway, if you want more of the story, you can access my web site. Thank you for this web site and I hope that your readers will realize that there is NO REHABILITATION for most criminals who commit felonies. There is the rare one who turns his/her life around, but most don't, most cause chaos for their victims and their OWN FAMILIES. God bless.
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Post by silentfam on Nov 21, 2016 1:42:35 GMT -5
Ralph was part of my family. We obviously do not talk about him as he was a second cousin however there are things I've heard that are not discussed in the court report. I obviously would question add ins except I have only heard these things from within the family and the rest of the story is spot on to what did happen. I will share what I think I know;)
P.S. It wasn't until a discussion at work made me question what really happened that I googled it. It's scary how the "urban legend" has distorted the original, horrible act.
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Post by kiowakutie on Jan 13, 2017 16:43:09 GMT -5
Oxdrover, I liked what I read in your post except for one thing that I think might either have been stated wrong or came from some misinformation. My ex-husband was a sex offender and did two stints in prison for it. I myself did not have a probem with stating that fact but I know our children had problems with it as did his sister etc. But the one thing I noticed was the statement that there is NO rehabilitation for people who commit felonies. Actually If my resesrch on it (which was random to say the least) showed it to be more like 50-70% were repeat offenders . BUT, NOT THE SAME FIGURES ON PEDOPHILES. Pedohiles CANNOT BE REHABBED. Of course we must always keep in mind that not all sexual crimes are of a pedophilic nature just as not all statutory rapes are actually whst they sound.Anyway I just wanted to mention that because I know of women who marry men who have already been convicted and served sentence for pedophile and they should really understand that he will do it again.
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Post by ilovemeg04 on Nov 10, 2017 1:24:58 GMT -5
Mrs.Jeanne Gehrcke was my Aunt. She was my father's sister.
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Post by jehoshaphat73 on Nov 10, 2017 18:14:03 GMT -5
You should contact Levi with any questions, prisoners have email and only he can answer your questions. I have been emailing him for the last couple of years now and he even shares advise. People tell me to let it go and stop communicating with a person who has done such indescribable acts. I just remember hanging out with him as a child. I have visited with him a couple times in prison and that life is far from my comfort zone. Just wanted to know if he asked the Lord for forgiveness and was seeking God to help him. Contact the man if you have questions, find out for yourself, maybe you can bring him some peace or for yourself.
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