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Post by cosmicjoke on Nov 22, 2008 2:46:10 GMT -5
I don't think Dateline NBC should stop asking the defense for their cooperation, especially now that they know the SPD is trying to put the kibosh on the piece. Ask yourselves, "Why the kibosh? What are they trying to hide?" One might think that the SPD would want to bask in the glory of a job well-done.
If Dateline asks, they may get a "yes." You never know.
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Post by lawfan08 on Feb 11, 2009 15:21:21 GMT -5
I don't believe the SPD is trying to prevent Dateline from doing this story. There are pre-trial motions today at 1:30 if anyone is interested.
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Post by hilde on Feb 13, 2009 1:46:46 GMT -5
I have to disagree with lawfan08. The SPD has called a number of family members and asked them to not cooperate with the Dateline piece. I also know that Dateline has contacted other family members and they are looking forward to helping Dateline with the piece. You can figure out who wants to help and who doesn't. Dateline will definitely be there and Dateline will definitely have friends in the camp of the defendant. I urge Dateline to continue with this piece as they are and to not allow the SPD to hinder their efforts.
If anyone wants to disagree with me, you're either an idiot or a bold-faced liar.
The pre-trial motions held today (thank you, lawfan08, for spreading the word) set the case of the prosecution back by milestones. Let's just say they aren't very happy tonight. For a full update, I'll be happy to start a new thread on that subject.
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Post by Bonnie Kernene on Feb 14, 2009 15:01:19 GMT -5
If anyone wants to disagree with me, you're either an idiot or a bold-faced liar. Wow, what a reasonable and rational thing to say. If people don't agree with you, then you tear them down and insult them. Very childish indeed. Whether Dateline should do something on this case or not is irrelevant. If they do, it should be fair and open minded, covering BOTH sides, including personal stuff on Shellye Stark & her personal life, including Brian Moore. Exposing both of them on national TV would probably NOT benefit the defense.
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Post by lawfan08 on Feb 15, 2009 1:16:15 GMT -5
I challenge Hilde to provide solid proof that the Spokane Police Department has tried to prevent Dateline from doing this story. I'm certain she can't.
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Post by iknowsteve on Feb 20, 2009 12:03:53 GMT -5
Your request is understood, as well as your reasons for asking. There won't be anything offered here, I'm sorry to let you know, but the story will be told in the appropriate way at the appropriate time.
This blog is wholly operated by people who have opinions about crime and they have a right to their opinions. No one can stop them from lawfully expressing their opinions and I don't know anyone who wants that to happen. The problems arise when the opinions fall outside of that boundary and when sheltered abuse takes place. There are problems here that exist as outliers to those boundaries and there is a central core to this issue.
There is a certain naivete that exists among our general populous that people and their actions are exactly what they seem. Converse to that, there exists a populous of people who have what I'd like to call an "educated opinion" of people and their actions. As it relates to the opinions expressed here, there are people who come here in an honest and forthright fashion to make comment on this topic. There are also people who come here in a dishonest and direct fashion to further an agenda that is founded in hatred and ignorance. To those who read these comments, it is important that you know this and see each comment for what it is.
There seems to be two agendas here which are not mutually exclusive by a singular factor: manipulation originating within the SPD. One agenda is perpetrated by one group of people, the other agenda by another, but they are both similar in that they have had, and currently have, encouragement to further a single agenda and that is to promote the conviction of a woman who has declared her innocence and should be able to enjoy the right given to any individual in her position; the right to be seen as innocent until proven guilty, as another poster here put it.
Opinions have been offered and comment asserted as fact that directly further this agenda for the benefit of the SPD and the Spokane County District Attorney's office. These entities exist solely to serve the public in the city of Spokane and the citizens of the state of Washington. Unknown to these constituents is the fact that this is occurring in such an underhanded means by which a great a genuine disservice is being done to them. There shouldn't be an effort to quell the comment here, but there should be an effort to educate the people to the actual facts and provide an alternate point of view. Unfortunately, this isn't allowed here and the reasons for that are understood by those who have educated opinion. You won't find the information regarding the agenda at hand here because it is continuously censored.
Others here have often gloated about knowing of posts which have never made the light of day and emails that have been sent to those in control here. How unfortunate is that, and how can anything written here be seen as genuine or anything other than honest when things such as this occur? The excuse is always to protect the "real victim" and the people who post here. This, in fact, isn't the true excuse. The true excuse is to operate a forum which is censored and askew in opinion and vision.
Luckily for those who have the desire to voice an opinion that differs in character and purpose have other avenues by which their opinions can be expressed that lay outside the confines of this blog. One of these avenues is provided by Dateline NBC and the powers that control this blog have no control in this arena. Journalists who operate by a code of ethics that are actually followed serve as the epicenter for this forum. Stay tuned.
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Post by lawfan08 on Feb 20, 2009 13:33:53 GMT -5
And again we venture off track from the main issue. Dale Stark is gone and deserves justice You can try to muddy the waters all you want. All that matters is that there is a man that is dead because his wife shot him. Whatever comes out at trial and the jury hears will decide this case. All of these ramblings mean absolutely nothing. They aren't going to be part of the trial. They aren't going to presented into evidence. And there's nothing you've said anywhere that justifies the murder of Dale.
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Post by doug on Feb 22, 2009 4:15:38 GMT -5
You can try to muddy the waters all you want. ... And there's nothing you've said anywhere that justifies the murder of Dale. Now THAT'S convenient. Right when it gets to you and what a lap dog you are, you put the spin on. No one anywhere has attempted to justify the death of another.
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Post by louiseoswalt on Feb 22, 2009 18:41:57 GMT -5
Doug,/bikerho/nikitajenniferfans, the hell the defense is not spinning this into 'bws', believe me when I say, if there had been years of abuse, the cops would have been there often. I know first hand, I suffered for years at the hands of a maniac, much like you apparently, he could spin ANYTHING to look as if he were in the right, and the rest of us were the screw ups. But when it came down to the nitty gritty, no one but his loser crowd was buying his bullshit. I should have gotten outside of that group of his friends, and I would have seen the light. The cops, and the public sure don't consider him to be bright, or an honest individual. In fact, he s in prison. Ha, he deserves to be there to. Now, I think you are so full of nuts, Doug, who ever. I was traumatized, beaten, left out in the snow to sleep on our back porch in the winter, had every single thing I own destroyed by him, and two of my animals killed by that idiot. And if you think for one minute, I would have pulled what Shellye did, you are nuts, crazy, bonko's, no beaten or mentally screwed with women would put herself in the position of Dale coming home in the middle of the night, and convienently a 'knife' out on the counter, (sure), and that I would let my son and nephew leave me alone there with him,. UNLESS I was planning on shooting him. Let's back up here, what sort of a person would even involve her own son and nephew in something of this nutz of a situation in the first place. Someone who doesn t give a rats ass about anyone but herself. I'm thinking that's why she left that poor kid there with Dale in the first place. Come on, I know of people that know her, and she and Dale hadn t been together in a hell of a long time. She wasn t scared of Dale. You are really screwed up Doug, etc.e tc... My god. And like hell you arn't triing to justify her shooting Dale. You people are nutz.
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Post by xqqqsme on Mar 18, 2009 17:07:15 GMT -5
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANY OF YOU, BUT I FOR ONE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT WAIT FOR THE DATELINE STORY!!!! LMAO I WONDER HOW EAGER BRIAN & SHELLYE ARE TO DO A STORY FOR DATELINE NOW......
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