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Post by rpd on May 24, 2008 15:01:08 GMT -5
As for game playing, taunting and baiting, I think that's pretty much tit for tat. I believe Bud Wiser took the last round. Speaking of Bud - RPD, people have the right to think whatever they want, for whatever reasons. They may not be correct, their motives may not be pure, but you can't forbid people to think something. And I'll give you a scoop - it may be only a handful of people now, but if Jason is arrested and that board is still open, it's going to get a whole lot worse. . Game playing, taunting and baiting ? Bud was responding to the insane posts by June and MimiMutton insinuating Meredith and a male beat Michelle to death. Call it taunting or baiting all you want, but Bud was only correcting yet another sick lie about the victim's sister. What about that is hard for you to understand ? Posters have the absolute right to side with Jason Young and claim he is innocent. However, it is my opinion they don't have the right to post libelous lies about the victim's innocent sister. It is a fact that Jason Young is being investigated for this murder, not Meredith Fisher.
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Post by petulant on May 24, 2008 15:10:13 GMT -5
Game playing, taunting and baiting ? Bud was responding to the insane posts by June and MimiMutton insinuating Meredith and a male beat Michelle to death. Call it taunting or baiting all you want, but Bud was only correcting yet another sick lie about the victim's sister. What about that is hard for you to understand ? Posters have the absolute right to side with Jason Young and claim he is innocent. However, it is my opinion they don't have the right to post libelous lies about the victim's innocent sister. It is a fact that Jason Young is being investigated for this murder, not Meredith Fisher. Amen! I would hate for Linda or Meredith to see some of the horrible things posted. It disgusts me that the moderator over there lets it stand and actually supports it.
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Post by Cardinal on May 24, 2008 15:12:21 GMT -5
As for game playing, taunting and baiting, I think that's pretty much tit for tat. I believe Bud Wiser took the last round. Speaking of Bud - RPD, people have the right to think whatever they want, for whatever reasons. They may not be correct, their motives may not be pure, but you can't forbid people to think something. And I'll give you a scoop - it may be only a handful of people now, but if Jason is arrested and that board is still open, it's going to get a whole lot worse. . Game playing, taunting and baiting ? Bud was responding to the insane posts by June and MimiMutton insinuating Meredith and a male beat Michelle to death. Call it taunting or baiting all you want, but Bud was only correcting yet another sick lie about the victim's sister. What about that is hard for you to understand ? Posters have the absolute right to side with Jason Young and claim he is innocent. However, it is my opinion they don't have the right to post libelous lies about the victim's innocent sister. It is a fact that Jason Young is being investigated for this murder, not Meredith Fisher. Nothing about Bud's motivation is hard for me to understand. And I don't think anyone has the right to post libelous lies about anyone. What I don't think Bud understands is that not everyone who posts on that board feels the same degree of loyalty to the sister that he does. So maybe you could pass along to him my caution about that board getting active again. Because posters who show up there for the first time aren't going to feel any loyalty to MF at all.
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Post by petulant on May 24, 2008 15:13:36 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of drama, was this the weekend gojoKe and sean were to re-enact the "accident" or did I miss it?
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Post by rpd on May 24, 2008 15:24:10 GMT -5
Game playing, taunting and baiting ? Bud was responding to the insane posts by June and MimiMutton insinuating Meredith and a male beat Michelle to death. Call it taunting or baiting all you want, but Bud was only correcting yet another sick lie about the victim's sister. What about that is hard for you to understand ? Posters have the absolute right to side with Jason Young and claim he is innocent. However, it is my opinion they don't have the right to post libelous lies about the victim's innocent sister. It is a fact that Jason Young is being investigated for this murder, not Meredith Fisher. Nothing about Bud's motivation is hard for me to understand. And I don't think anyone has the right to post libelous lies about anyone. What I don't think Bud understands is that not everyone who posts on that board feels the same degree of loyalty to the sister that he does. So maybe you could pass along to him my caution about that board getting active again. Because posters who show up there for the first time aren't going to feel any loyalty to MF at all. "And I don't think anyone has the right to post libelous lies about anyone."I rest my case.
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Post by rpd on May 24, 2008 15:27:17 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of drama, was this the weekend gojoKe and sean were to re-enact the "accident" or did I miss it? Yea, he was the one that said he could take that curve at 40mph easily. Sounds like he would love to be on the stage with an audience. I doubt gojo will play a part though.
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Post by janetruth on May 24, 2008 15:29:26 GMT -5
I've decided to respond to several questions and comments that were addressed to me after I left. (snipped) As for the JIIs dominating the IS board, how is that different from the JDIs dominating Scout's board? On one board, MF is vilified; on the other, Jason and the IS posters are vilified. Maybe the JDIs think that because they're convinced Jason is guilty, it's okay to vilify him. But the last time I checked, he hadn't even been arrested, let alone convicted, and the way I understand our legal system, he's entitled to a presumption of innocence. (snipped) PS: Petulant, I'M not the drama queen. I snipped because I want to address just this point. One difference between the two boards is that IS is a corporate entity, with no stated leanings. Scout's board is Scout's. Her own rules and point of view apply. she is not obligated to present or allow a "fair and balanced" discussion. She opened it for case discussion in a troll-free environment. IOW, she vetts the registrations. Scout allows differences of opinion, as long as they are expressed with respect. She has sources she can't name or link, but who are quite believable. She is very fair. The one thing she will not tolerate is bashing of the Fishers. The only reason the IS trolls started that garbage was because they couldn't handle those of us who have followed quite a few of these "eraser" killings immediately zooming in on Jason as the probably perp. Statistically, he's the most likely, and, if you read up on some other cases, you will see the similarities that jump out at us, waving big red flags. The trolls, led by members of IUPG organizations, troll the boards, defending all these guys because it's their crusade to do so. The "insiders," with no other cases to compare, just want to defend their Jason. The whole thing against Meredith started with these people completely ignoring common sense and casting around for someone to attack, the same way (in their eyes) Jason was being attacked. Tit for tat. The differences (Meredith talking, Jason not, Meredith having nothing to gain, Jason having a lot, etc.) mean nothing to them. The idea was: Jason is under attack; let's find somebody else we can counterattack. It happened in the Laci case, with people vilifying Laci's stepfather and other relatives, all in the name of trying to create a reasonable doubt. In the beginning, it had nothing to do with their actually thinking Meredith might have done it, just that Jason might not have. All this is my opinion, based on watching the whole thing go down.
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Post by janesdean on May 24, 2008 15:30:27 GMT -5
from Cardinals' post:
"And yes, I took exception to some comments made at IS about the LBLO, and I said so at the time. As for game playing, taunting and baiting, I think that's pretty much tit for tat."
I disagree, it is far from "tit for tat". Maybe in the past, before the board was corrupted by K4Evil, Mimi and others but not now. Now, since we all are suppose to be on our best behavior, the JDI's abide by the rules (to avoid unfair banning) and the JII's have free reign. They attack sane, legitimate posts endlessly, and nothing is said to them. That is whats been happening in the recent days up to the closing. I have respected your posts there for the most part, but have noticed a camaradarie between you and one of the most evil (in my book) and also that you post on several other boards in an accusatory manner but say nothing to the idiots at IS for the obnoxious posts and attacks. Just my opinion as always
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Post by rpd on May 24, 2008 15:33:46 GMT -5
.....and Bonnie has also made it very clear she will not tolerate the bashing of Meredith Fisher here. The only board that allows such sick behavior is In Session.
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Post by petulant on May 24, 2008 15:34:07 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of drama, was this the weekend gojoKe and sean were to re-enact the "accident" or did I miss it? Yea, he was the one that said he could take that curve at 40mph easily. Sounds like he would love to be on the stage with an audience. I doubt gojo will play a part though. Looking at that pic you posted at scout's, I don't think your average driver could.
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Post by Cardinal on May 24, 2008 15:39:56 GMT -5
I've decided to respond to several questions and comments that were addressed to me after I left. (snipped) As for the JIIs dominating the IS board, how is that different from the JDIs dominating Scout's board? On one board, MF is vilified; on the other, Jason and the IS posters are vilified. Maybe the JDIs think that because they're convinced Jason is guilty, it's okay to vilify him. But the last time I checked, he hadn't even been arrested, let alone convicted, and the way I understand our legal system, he's entitled to a presumption of innocence. (snipped) PS: Petulant, I'M not the drama queen. I snipped because I want to address just this point. One difference between the two boards is that IS is a corporate entity, with no stated leanings. Scout's board is Scout's. Her own rules and point of view apply. she is not obligated to present or allow a "fair and balanced" discussion. She opened it for case discussion in a troll-free environment. IOW, she vetts the registrations. Scout allows differences of opinion, as long as they are expressed with respect. She has sources she can't name or link, but who are quite believable. She is very fair. The one thing she will not tolerate is bashing of the Fishers. The only reason the IS trolls started that garbage was because they couldn't handle those of us who have followed quite a few of these "eraser" killings immediately zooming in on Jason as the probably perp. Statistically, he's the most likely, and, if you read up on some other cases, you will see the similarities that jump out at us, waving big red flags. The trolls, led by members of IUPG organizations, troll the boards, defending all these guys because it's their crusade to do so. The "insiders," with no other cases to compare, just want to defend their Jason. The whole thing against Meredith started with these people completely ignoring common sense and casting around for someone to attack, the same way (in their eyes) Jason was being attacked. Tit for tat. The differences (Meredith talking, Jason not, Meredith having nothing to gain, Jason having a lot, etc.) mean nothing to them. The idea was: Jason is under attack; let's find somebody else we can counterattack. It happened in the Laci case, with people vilifying Laci's stepfather and other relatives, all in the name of trying to create a reasonable doubt. In the beginning, it had nothing to do with their actually thinking Meredith might have done it, just that Jason might not have. All this is my opinion, based on watching the whole thing go down. I can't argue with anything you said. It's true that IS is a corporate entity and Scout's board is not. From a poster's perspective, however, do you honestly think that distinction is made? And it's true that Scout refuses to allow bashing of the Fishers. She does, however, allow bashing of Jason, the Youngs and the IS posters. I wasn't around when this case started, but your summary sounds reasonable and makes sense to me. If Jason is arrested, do you think those same tactics will be used at trial?
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Post by petulant on May 24, 2008 15:41:03 GMT -5
from Cardinals' post: "And yes, I took exception to some comments made at IS about the LBLO, and I said so at the time. As for game playing, taunting and baiting, I think that's pretty much tit for tat." I disagree, it is far from "tit for tat". Maybe in the past, before the board was corrupted by K4Evil, Mimi and others but not now. Now, since we all are suppose to be on our best behavior, the JDI's abide by the rules (to avoid unfair banning) and the JII's have free reign. They attack sane, legitimate posts endlessly, and nothing is said to them. That is whats been happening in the recent days up to the closing. I have respected your posts there for the most part, but have noticed a comradary between you and one of the most evil (in my book) and also that you post on several other boards in an accusatory manner but say nothing to the idiots at IS for the obnoxious posts and attacks. Just my opinion as always I see what you see, especially the "camaraderie" between 2 parties. Funny, that - don't kat's eat birds? stay tuned!
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Post by janesdean on May 24, 2008 15:41:22 GMT -5
taken from Cardinals' post :
"As for the JIIs dominating the IS board, how is that different from the JDIs dominating Scout's board? On one board, MF is vilified; on the other, Jason and the IS posters are vilified. Maybe the JDIs think that because they're convinced Jason is guilty, it's okay to vilify him. But the last time I checked, he hadn't even been arrested, let alone convicted, and the way I understand our legal system, he's entitled to a presumption of innocence."
The IS board posters have been run off the board, either by banning or disgust, that board use to have an entirely different member list, and K4E and Mimi/fiver/mandymutton/justfacts were at the bottom of most peoples lists. And the reason most feel it is ok to discuss JY in any manner is because he is the focus of the search warrants, that has not been kept from us by LE and Meredith Fisher has not been named on any of them. So, why would anyone feel Meredith is guilty ? And while your busy defending the IS board posters who villify Meredith, what keeps you from delivering one of these type of speeches there ? I've only seen you take this up at Scouts board and now here, and I for one feel you need to practice what you preach. That is, give it a rest with the JDI's and take it up with the JII's or can't you see/read the crap they spew on a daily basis ?
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Post by rpd on May 24, 2008 15:41:39 GMT -5
Yea, he was the one that said he could take that curve at 40mph easily. Sounds like he would love to be on the stage with an audience. I doubt gojo will play a part though. Looking at that pic you posted at scout's, I don't think your average driver could. The fasted safe speed I could do was about 30 mph. He ran off the road after the actual curve, still no way 40 mph at that point was possible w/o compromising safety. I think he told the trooper he was doing 40 mph, cause if he said he was doing the normal 25mph, it would likely be questioned how he could cross another lane and leave the road going that slow
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Post by janesdean on May 24, 2008 15:44:43 GMT -5
from Cardinals' post: "And yes, I took exception to some comments made at IS about the LBLO, and I said so at the time. As for game playing, taunting and baiting, I think that's pretty much tit for tat." I disagree, it is far from "tit for tat". Maybe in the past, before the board was corrupted by K4Evil, Mimi and others but not now. Now, since we all are suppose to be on our best behavior, the JDI's abide by the rules (to avoid unfair banning) and the JII's have free reign. They attack sane, legitimate posts endlessly, and nothing is said to them. That is whats been happening in the recent days up to the closing. I have respected your posts there for the most part, but have noticed a comradary between you and one of the most evil (in my book) and also that you post on several other boards in an accusatory manner but say nothing to the idiots at IS for the obnoxious posts and attacks. Just my opinion as always I see what you see, especially the "camaraderie" between 2 parties. Funny, that - don't kat's eat birds? stay tuned! Petulant ! Thanks for the spelling correction, you won't believe how long I wrestled with that one before I posted LOL and still wrong !
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